Sunday, July 11, 2010

Why not college homeschooling?

Hear me out, I know that college is suppose to be much more consuming than highschool but at a highschool level students are allowed to be home schooled, so why not college. Basically one goes to college, does the homework, takes the tests and get the degree. Right, yes. I propose that student are allowed college credit by taking a adminstered tests, only tests toward a degree. Ultimately I'm looking for an institution the test one on college level material, but doe no teaching, only testing. Through my years of college I found that all I learn from is the textbooks and I could pass with only test.


This is a system where the student learn by themselves, and then there is an accredited institution that tests them and ultimately give them a degree. A college is an institution that basically stands behind their testing. So I figure why doe one need to pay so much when the information is free..I know there are classes that can't taught without instruction, such as hands on perfessions.

Why not college homeschooling?
well, that would be far too easy. there are also essays to write that must be evaluated by the teachers, who are specialists in the subjects you are taking. if getting a degree would be as easy as you describe it...imagine the impact on the economy, and on employment. there would be so much competition, i don't think you would want to search for jobs in your field with so much competition. personally i spent a VERY long and consuming time in college, obtaining a bachelor's, then going into a M.A./Ph.D program for 7 years. that was such a long time, and i worked extremely hard for the position i have today. and i'm definitely benefiting - great job, great pay. i deserve it, and i don't really think it's fair if something like that would be very easy. Sometimes the best things in life are worth working for, and if it's easy, will you really appreciate everything? this is sort of the way our system works - i'm sure there are easy ways to get a degree in different countries - however, your reap the problems when people in completely different classes and situations are, let's say, applying for lawyer or doctor's jobs, when they really don't qualify for it.





at certain colleges, there are online courses you could take that describe what you're talking about, but i don't think they allow the majority of your schooling to come from there.
Reply:What point is there in obtaining a degree if all you do is take tests? Knowledge in any particular field is about far more than passing a test of any sort.





Take my major for example: How am I supposed to have a working understanding of writing for a newspaper (Journalism) without hands on experience in newsroom environment such as a small newspaper or the college newspaper? How am I to gain and understand the valuable skills needed to become an excellent or even average reporter if all I do is answer a few multiple choice questions?





Without practical application of one's major there is no real skill or even a marketable one at that to show the employer. College is meant to be hard work and much of the majors available require hands on experience in order to gain the necessary knowledge to be able to apply it in the real world. If you take the easy way out of only taking standard tests, you will never make it in the career world.
Reply:You're essentially describing the Open University in the UK
Reply:I agree...I don't like the fact that we have to go through all kinds of prerequisites before we actually get to the stuff that really pertains to our degree. It's a waste of time and money for just having to pass tests.
Reply:called online classes
Reply:I think that's what correspondence schools do. But most students can't learn just from a book - I know that I never could have learned quantum mechanics from text books alone. I needed it to be put in proper context for me to understand it. And that's something you just don't get from books.





But I don't think homeschooling is the thing to call it - homeschoolers don't have to pass tests. Their parents can teach them what they think is necessary, and then they can go off to college without a degree. But I certainly don't want to go to a doctor who didn't ever take any classes in medicine, or hire an engineer who never had to take physics.
Reply:I know what you mean, I sit in class listening to my professor rattle on about material I already learned from my over-priced text book. Then I sit and listen to him explain things that these idiot students should already know, and I wonder how they managed to get into a unversity. BUT I can't put a measure on some of the amazing professors I've had. The ones who don't just teach-from-text book, but interact with you. The things you learn in a class like that is immeasurable. NOt only do you educate yourself, but you learn social qualities as well. The crappy, endless, futile classes are so worth being taken if you can also get one of those amazing classes that change your life or perspective.





I was homeschooled my last years of highschool, and college has opened up a whole other world for me, no one should miss that experience for anything, or have the option to. It forces you to learn, even if what you're learning is how to be patient with really stupid people.
Reply:That's online schooling and the reason you can't be "home schooled" like high school is because the subjects are different in college. You can't have one person teaching every aspect of a college course because if they aren't qualified in that course, what will you do? Get a different home tutor for every single subject? If that's the case then you might as well go to college.





Maybe the school you went to only required you to pass tests but for degree I'm going for, you need lab hours and clinicals (nursing) Home schooling for high school isn't free so you'd sill be paying, what's the difference?





Pre-reqs do seem pointless but look at it this way. Would you want a doctor that never took a biology or math class? Or a therapist that never took one pyschology class? Why is English important? Because if you go on a job interview talking the slang you talk on the internet and online, the corporations will turn their noses up at you. If you never learned Math calculations, then how would you know if someone is cheating you on taxes and we know how important those things are to everyone.
Reply:its called online college
Reply:I hope a bunch of teachers answer this question. You're basically calling out the system as not working.





There's so many mothers working right now, I'd like to know how homeschooling is working at all. My daughter is being "homeschooled" by my ex-wife, and she works 60 hours a week. That's ridiculous. There's a reason school is public.





I believe the reason our general scores are going down is the huge influx of people from other countries that barely speak English, and the wave of text speak and Ebonic slang *gasp!* that makes kids learn bad Grammar and misspellings. I don't think there's any stupid kids out there. I just don't see a positive background for learning.





Keeping everyone home to learn just what Mom and Dad know isn't going to improve one score, and cannot be considered preparing for college. The suggestion that college should be at home too makes me ill.





In short, there is no discipline, so how can we expect anyone to learn - other than the kids who learned discipline elsewhere?
Reply:Long distance learning its called orr you can do online classes or evening classes


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